Doctor Who Theories – Thin Ice – Week 3

Wow!! Last weeks episode Thin Ice had it all going on. As well as the usual monsters and danger there were numerous little and huge clues for the theory obsessed whovian to consider and discuss.

For previous weeks theories please read Week 1  and Week 2.

Doctor Who Theories Thin Ice


Doctor who – Thin Ice


The episode starts with The Doctor and Bill arriving unexpectedly in 1814 London at the end of the last great frost fair. While there they encounter a monster under the ice.

While looking around the fair the Doctor tells Bill he has been to the frost fair several times before. Proper whovian nerds will be able to identify one of these occasions.

Fast forward to 3.30 and you will see that the Doctor as a previous doctor  took River Song to the last great frost fair to celebrate her birthday. A coincidence? Possibly, but the Tardis bought them to that point in time of its own accord so it is unlikely.

We have seen a darker side of the Doctor this week as well. When the young thief Spider fell through the ice and subsequently became trapped underneath it the Doctor showed more concern about his sonic screwdriver than he did the boy.

Bills initial reaction to this and questioning of the doctor highlighted the fact that the Doctor  is not a squeaky clean totally good guy.

He has seen people die, has killed people and he is able to move on without any outward show of grief or guilt.


The themes we identified in the last 2 weeks have been a bit challenged this week.

There were no spaceships, although we did see the Tardis acting on its own to bring them to that point in time which is consistent with the idea that it is something with a mind of its own, not just a vehicle.

The family theme seems on the face of it to have been dropped, but it would be impossible not to have been aware of the similarities between Bill and Kitty ( the leader of the band of child thieves).

Bill herself was very worried at the beginning of the episode about messing with the past and inadvertently changing her own timeline.  Could she have saved her great-great-great-grandmother?

There was no further mention of the word rhyme this week, so I am going to have to drop that one for the time being, but it was an unusual phrase and still worth putting on the back burner.

There were other things noted in this episode that are worth mentioning. Cheats – the Doctor once again mention cheats. He was fascinated with how the pie shop man performed the coin trick and openly identified himself as a thief and  cheat. This builds on the shortcuts mentioned in week 2.

Okay, I have deliberately left the best till last. The BIG thing in the Thin Ice episode was undoubtably was the last few minutes. Nardole alone in the basement with the vault.

There can be no doubt now that there is someone in the vault (as opposed to something). If you look on the doors of the vault it is possible to identify Galifreyan writing. Now this could be because the Doctor built the vault or it could be a reference to who is on the vault.

The obvious possibility is The Master. We know he is appearing in the series and he is dangerous enough to need locking up. Further more when The Master as Harold Saxon dies he deliberately does not regenerate because he said he would not become a prisoner of the Doctor.

The last time we saw the Master he was even more deranged than usual and was being dragged into the great time war timelock along with the other Timelords who had attempted to use him to break out of the time lock to kill the Doctor.

We do not know how or when he transformed into Missy or how he escaped Gallifrey. There is the possibility then that Missy and the Master are in fact two separate beings and thus the Master maybe under lock and key to keep him hidden from Missy. This would explain why The Doctor is staying under the radar.

Obviously this is all speculation and guesswork. What we know is whatever is in the vault is not happy. It seems as though it maybe jealous of the time the Doctor is spending with Bill.

loneliness and sadness has been touched on in the other episodes. Heather wanted a travelling companion, the Vardy couldn’t deal with the humans grief and the monster in the Thames made a noise that sounded like despair.

Could that be related to the promise the Doctor refered to? Did he promise to stay earthbound to keep the person in the vault company. Did he promise not to leave them?

As you can see there were a lot of things going on in Thin Ice leading to a huge amount of speculation. Are there things you have noticed that I haven’t mentioned or things you think need to be changed?

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  1. Mummy in a TuTu

    May 17, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    I’ve never really been into dr who but you do have me intrigued!
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    1. hooks_and_dragons

      May 17, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      I maybe totally biassed but

    2. hooks_and_dragons

      May 17, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      I think it is brilliant and recommend it as family viewing in a Saturday

  2. Tubbs

    May 11, 2017 at 10:19 am

    I’m really enjoying this season of Doctor Who and love Bill as a companion. It’s a shame she’ll be leaving at the end of this season because of the unidentified changes. I’m also wondering who or what is in the box … The Master seems a bit obvious, but possible!

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